my website is hosted 85 ft below ground in a salt mine

sde · 07-22-2002, 01:27 PM

hehe, .. yeap. for reals: http://www.vilitas.com/company/data_center.php?shot=1

i found an incredible host. i signed up with www.vilitas.com and i'm happy i did.

as soon as my credit card approved, it kicked me into their control panel. instantly my account was active.

1gb, 10 domains, unlimited mysql db and emails, php, ssl, and ssh for 24/mo .. and they have smaller plans too.

i sent 2 emails to their support, .. i got a reply from a real person within 5 minutes that fully answered my multiple questions.

i also inquired about their bbs policy and they made it very clear they don't like cgi-based forums.. php/mysql forums such as this they have no problem with.

i just wanted to post this cause we were talking about them in the irc chat the other night. i'm very happy so far.

bdl · 07-22-2002, 04:32 PM

LOL, yeah, I signed up yesterday also; I noticed the underground tunnels leading to the data center, kind of ideallic, really. Thanks for checking into the forum issue; I figured it might have been cgi based forums and not PHP, since they tend to run lighter, but it's good to know.

Admin · 07-23-2002, 07:14 AM

let me know how they work out for you guys... they seem pretty new (i havent read there entire website yet)....

blah blah balh.

sde · 07-23-2002, 07:34 AM

all i know is the support is dope!

i was using the shell and i noticed that tab-completion wasn't working .. i wrote an email late last night asking why. apparently, freebsd uses the bourne shell as it's default. he set me up with a bash shell so tab-completion and history now works.

sde · 07-23-2002, 08:10 AM

also my nameservers changed within 24 hours .. this could be do to who i use for my dns service though .. bdl's is taking longer.

Admin · 07-23-2002, 11:20 AM

whoa whoa whoa... they give you shell????

w00t · 07-29-2002, 03:17 PM

The word overkill comes to mind, but it looks sweet :rock:

sde · 07-29-2002, 10:03 PM

i will use it all .. i almost need more domains

abc123 · 08-03-2002, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mmilano

i also inquired about their bbs policy and they made it very clear they don't like cgi-based forums.. php/mysql forums such as this they have no problem with.

cgi = common gateway interface

.cgi = perl script

they don't like "perl-based forums"

you can't have a forum unless it is cgi based...

sde · 08-03-2002, 10:13 PM

so what you are saying is that every php script is cgi-based?

abc123 · 08-03-2002, 11:06 PM

http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/cgi/intro.html

basically all data that the scripts process (like this message) must be passed to the script somehow, the interface that allows this is refered to as CGI, so yes, all your php scripts use the CGI.

the reason some webhosts may not like PERL scripts (.cgi) is because they create a new process each time they are run, whereas asp, (and i guess php) doesn't, so its less strain on the server

sde · 08-03-2002, 11:36 PM

aah, thanks abc123 =)

it's nice to see you around . .

i appreciate the insight

sdeming · 08-04-2002, 11:33 AM

Hello,

Just to clarify, typically CGI invokes a new process for each access, whereas with mod_php this isn't the case. With mod_php the data is passed inline to the PHP processor via the apache module interface, similar to CGI but not. There are ways to speed up CGI processing such as FastCGI, and if you are using perl mod_perl though these are inherently insecure in a shared hosting environment.

BBS's and Forums generally create a lot of traffic and can eat up CPU cycles real fast when they are executed via CGI and not the Apache module interface. Quite honestly, all of the really good forums are written in PHP/MySQL anyway.

kenshi · 08-04-2002, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mmilano
i was using the shell and i noticed that tab-completion wasn't working .. i wrote an email late last night asking why. apparently, freebsd uses the bourne shell as it's default. he set me up with a bash shell so tab-completion and history now works.

To clarify, FreeBSD defaults to Bourne shell for regular users and csh for root (which has auto-competion). To change your shell, you would simply run chpass and change shell to /usr/local/bin/bash or whatever suits your mood. (Does Linux have a way for non-root users to change their default shell? I think not.)

sde · 08-04-2002, 02:09 PM

i have the freebsd 4.6 install cd here screaming at me "install me .. install me now" =) all this bsd talk is gonna make me do it.

in a couple more weeks i'll make the switch.