where to start?

falsepride · 11-06-2004, 03:03 PM

im pretty experienced im php for about a year now, every challanged i could think of, i found a way to do it, but i dont want to program sites. i want to start out making small programs, then eventaully building up to more complex things. how powerful is perl and what can you do in it? i got perl for dummies awhile ago, but i got bored with it cuz it was similar to php. what language should i learn first?

Redline · 11-06-2004, 05:21 PM

I found Visual Basic to be an easy programming language to use, but I think it gives you a skewed view of programming. After learning VB, I found it really really difficult to learn C/C++ and I still don't understand C. So you might want to start out making small C++ apps. At least with that language you can start out with small apps and make bigger ones without having to learn a whole 'nother language.

falsepride · 11-06-2004, 06:28 PM

do i need to install the source code for c++, or get a compiler of some sort? ive dont php, and some perl, i needed to install perl source code, but for like other languages you can't open then up in notepad and edit away, don't you need some compiler whatever that is?

Redline · 11-06-2004, 06:35 PM

I've not yet delved into C++ yet, but you should be able to edit the source code in notepad, and use the free Boreland compiler to compile the program. There are two "tutorials" regarding Boreland here on CN

http://cpp.codenewbie.com/articles/c..._1-Page_1.html

http://cpp.codenewbie.com/articles/c..._2-Page_1.html

Belisarius · 11-06-2004, 07:28 PM

C, C++, Java are all compiled languages; they need to transform source code into machine-readable code. You can fire up Notepad and edit the code, but you then need to compile it before you can run it. For C and C++, a free compiler that you can use is GCC. If you're interested in Java, you can download the Windows SDK from java.sun.com. I'm a Java programmer, so I'm more familiar with what you need for a sane programming environment in that than C/C++.

falsepride · 11-09-2004, 03:42 PM

i downloaded JavaTM 2 SDK, Standard Edition
Version 1.4.2, but i have no idea how to use it or what do? anyone give me some help?

sde · 11-09-2004, 04:06 PM

Now that you have the framework, you can either write java in a text editor, or download and IDE. I suggest using an IDE. With netbeans ( an IDE ) you can write console, gui, or web apps.

http://netbeans.org

falsepride · 11-09-2004, 05:02 PM

if i were to use a text editor, how do i compile the txt files into the program?

Redline · 11-09-2004, 05:06 PM

For the Borland C++ compiler, once it is set up correctly you simply type in a command prompt:

bcc32 foobar.txt

though you should save the files as *.cpp

falsepride · 11-09-2004, 05:08 PM

i dont have borland yet, just the java one

Redline · 11-09-2004, 05:15 PM

Oops, my mistake. Hey, SDE, answer the man

Kernel_Killer · 11-09-2004, 05:47 PM

You could always start with some bleeding edge. Learn C# and embedded it in XAML.

sde · 11-09-2004, 05:57 PM

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/install-windows.html

note the 'updating path' section. once you have your paths correct, you can use javac to compile a .java file.

Code:

javac myfirstjavaprogram.java

that would make a new compiled file called myfirstjavaprogram.class

any further details on this subject should probably be in a new post in the java forum =)

Belisarius · 11-10-2004, 07:24 AM

I'll be there

falsepride · 11-10-2004, 01:26 PM

i dont any reasons why this thread cant continue. new people who want to start learning programing could find a lot of info in here. and for c/c++, what are some good compilers?