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Old 05-14-2004, 03:46 PM   #16 (permalink)
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The only problem with I new standard, I would think, is that those buggers will find another way to crack and exploit it as well as any other. That is what such abusers do for a living.
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Old 05-14-2004, 03:47 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Oops, that was supposed to be "a" new standard not "I". Blasted fat fingers!
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Old 05-14-2004, 09:54 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Rotkiv I don't want to pay to send an email ...
I'm not suggesting that you personally should pay for using email (unless you're a spammer, that is). What I'm saying that spammers and other Internet parasites should be hit in the pocket for every email they send out. Oblige their ISPs to verify their identifies and charge them on bulk mailings.
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Old 11-02-2004, 09:53 PM   #19 (permalink)
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It shouldn't be so difficult for ISPs to distinguish between parasites (i.e. bulk-emailers) and ordinary users.
See http://www.celticsurf.net/internet/abuse.html
for more info about the parasites.
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:41 AM   #20 (permalink)
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You're starting to sound like Bill Gates..!!

Current standard don't work to Bill's liking. Bill finds another standard from 'thin air' a.k.a. his millions of employees that he steals glory from. Calls this his new standard and everything must use it or suffer. Companies develop thousands of products using new standard. People buy better software that isn't MicroFlop. Curent standard don't work to Bil's liking. Bill finds another standard...etc etc etc

Just starting a new standard for something widely used such as email isn't as simple as you seem to depict. It takes possibly years of work by hundreds of fully commited staff.
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Old 11-16-2004, 05:08 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Coming up with a new standard isn't that hard. You just need a couple guys who know the problems and the various proposed solutions to sit down and hammer it out. It then goes through a review process where the community finds out where it's weaknesses are and whatnot, and eventually it gets published as an RFC.

From there, it takes people a while to actually implement it. But it's not the mammoth task you're talking about. Just look at LDAP. Should someone come up with a sender-verified mail protocol that was accepted industry-wide, we could have the whole community adopting it in 5 or so years. There'd be a period where people would use both the old combination of SMTP and POP3/IMAP as well as the new protocols, but the old way would just whither on the vine. Who wouldn't want an e-mail account that was spam and spoof proof?
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:10 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Hmm... Sounds alot like the ISPX and TCP/IP songs. Things just keep getting "better".
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