lindows

[Apodysophilia]

what are your views on lindows?? do you like it? if so why? or dont you?

from what i have seen it seems pretty nice to a linux newbie. but i know little about linux so i ask all of you about it?

[redhead]

The way I see it, lindows is just a distro build uppon wine, with every scalability striped from it. Where's my compiler, where's own control of bootup scripts etc.

I would recomend knopix to any newbie who just want to try it out.
It's easy burn a CD with it, and take it with you where ever you go.. No need to install on the HD, have your office PC run with linux, without the IT-staff knowing about it..

Sure you're root all the time, but hey what's the difference, windows9x/knopix.. same restrictions, just linux instead of M$ crap.

[Apodysophilia]

Originally posted by redhead
The way I see it, lindows is just a distro build uppon wine, with every scalability striped from it. Where's my compiler, where's own control of bootup scripts etc.

I would recomend knopix to any newbie who just want to try it out.
It's easy burn a CD with it, and take it with you where ever you go.. No need to install on the HD, have your office PC run with linux, without the IT-staff knowing about it..

Sure you're root all the time, but hey what's the difference, windows9x/knopix.. same restrictions, just linux instead of M$ crap.

knopix sounds cool, what all can i do with it? and i dont need to install it on the hard drive, no partion?:rock:



i gonna look more into it:p

edit] so i burn the iso and the .md5 file ?? (i am new at this but i know how to burn an iso image)

[bdl]

Originally posted by Apodysophilia
so i burn the iso and the .md5 file ?? (i am new at this but i know how to burn an iso image)

No, you burn the ISO image alone, using an application like NERO to 'Burn from Image'. The md5 file is there so you can verify that 1) you got the complete file and 2) ensures some security in knowing that you got the file the server intended you to get, with the verified md5 sum. The person in charge of uploading the ISO to the server also uploads a good md5 value, you dowload the ISO image and run md5 against the image you have, compare the two. Usually you can find an application called 'md5sum' on any linux installation, used for just this sort of thing; you can also get a DOS version, check google.

[redhead]

Under *nix its:
~> md5sum -c <the md5 file>
Under windows get This program and it's the same as in linux..

[Apodysophilia]

thanks to redhead helping me viva irc, i was able to get it up and running. i really like it, i only had one probem [because i am a linux n00b] i didnt know how to force an app. to close so i had 3 xmms open :p

[redhead]

Right-click on the title of it on the task-bar, and chose kill.. There are several kill-signals you can chose to send, to be realy mean you could open up a consol and type:

~ > kill -9 `pidof xmms`

Heres an earlier discussion on the kill capcability.
And here is a 101 course in the shell.

[Apodysophilia]

I installed it to one of my hard drives

oh man i really messed something up, lol. i set the screen size too big and couldnt put it back, i know how to open with no gui. i just dont know the commands, i am calso edit any files with in, if that helps

[redhead]

Once you get in CLI, then use Xconfigurator, note the capital X, else manualy edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (i think it is) file and change the Mode setting in the Display subsection of Screen, should say something like:

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device "Neomagic Corporation|NM2160 [MagicGraph "
        Monitor "My Monitor"
        DefaultDepth 16
        Subsection "Display"
                Depth 16
                Modes "800x600"
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Mode is your usual 800x600/1024x768/1280x1024 etc. and Depth is your bit depth, you know 16bit, 24bit, 32bit etc.

[Apodysophilia]

Originally posted by redhead
Once you get in CLI, then use Xconfigurator, note the capital X, ....

it wouldnt let me write to it, the knoppix cd wouldnt let me , what is CLI [the non gui thing] and how do i access Xconfigurator after i log in as root ??


ps:red you are becoming my linux super hero

[redhead]

CLI is non GUI
GUI = Graphical User Interface
CLI = Command Line Intercafe

If I understand correct, you can get to the non GUI interface, and log in as root (or something else) Then when prompted with the:
[root@machine] #
You type Xconfigurator If it returns with command not found use /usr/X11R6/bin/Xconfigurator instead.

If you are loged in as a non root user (echo $USER returns with something else than root) then use the command su -l root and type in the root password, then you should be the root user.

Else if you can't login, when met by the first boot screen, type: knoppix single or knoppix 1 And you will be droped in a consol without having to login or anything, just with the [root@machine] #

[Apodysophilia]

yay, fixed.


thanks soo much redhead :rock:

[Apodysophilia]

we should change the title to "helping apody with linux":p

but anyway, i want to install opera but dont know what one to pick out




edit] it also came with Kdevelop, i need something similar only with java

[redhead]

Originally posted by Apodysophilia

I want to install opera but dont know what one to pick out

Since knopix is based on debian I would go with one of the deb choices.
Staticaly linked to QT will make it run even if you havn't got the same QT library installed as it was compiled against.
Shared will make it use your own QT installation, which could give some problems if the compilation is relying on some parts that the one you've got isn't supporting to the fullest.

edit] it also came with Kdevelop, i need something similar only with java

Dont know about that.. Can't Kdevelop handle Java aswell?