Embedding and Hotlinking from Freehosts

Phaedrus · 05-12-2003, 12:33 AM

Hi. I was hoping that you HTML buffs could help me. The title is self Explainatory. I heard it was possible, somehow, using HTML to hotlink to freehosts. By embedding the image in the Webpage or something.

Can someone please tell me how?

Thnx

sde · 05-12-2003, 06:12 AM

i don't understand what "hotlinking" and "freehosts" is .. could you give an example .. and if freehosts is a company , maybe a link?

Epsilon · 05-12-2003, 08:04 PM

I think "freehosts" would refer to free web hosts such as Angelfire, Geocities, etc., and "hotlinking" (???) maybe means just linking to an image with an IMG tag.

Most free hosts disable your ability to upload images on their server and then link to the images from other sites, thereby bypassing the ad pop-ups (the free host's only source of revenue), effectively stealing their bandwidth and damaging their business.

No, I will not tell you how to do it.

Why not just pay five bucks a month for a basic web hosting account somewhere and not have to worry about it?

Phaedrus · 05-13-2003, 07:19 AM

Woah Man, Harsh.

FYI, I dont have a credit card. So how can i pay?
I just wanted to post images on forums. I could put a link but its somewhat cumbersome.

I registered with a freehost (a general term) because im not sure if my ISP actually provides Webspace, im sure they do but i cant find any info on their site about it. So i cant use any of that.
And how many ppl actually click ads on freehosts? Most ppl have pop-up stoppers and can block banner ads. MY Firewall has this option. So its mostly a moot point isnt it?

Phaedrus · 05-13-2003, 07:29 AM

And to widen the scope a bit.
You shouldnt suppress Info just because it has dubias use.
Hacking is illegal, but you cant outlaw knowing about computer security.

Could you at least tell me what this means. What is embedding in PAges? I am curious.

Epsilon · 05-13-2003, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by Phaedrus
Woah Man, Harsh.

FYI, I dont have a credit card. So how can i pay?
I just wanted to post images on forums. I could put a link but its somewhat cumbersome.

I registered with a freehost (a general term) because im not sure if my ISP actually provides Webspace, im sure they do but i cant find any info on their site about it. So i cant use any of that.
And how many ppl actually click ads on freehosts? Most ppl have pop-up stoppers and can block banner ads. MY Firewall has this option. So its mostly a moot point isnt it?

The major free hosts get paid per ad impression, not per click, so the number of people who click is irrelevant. I don't mean to say you have bad intentions, but look at it from their point of view. If they allowed people to do this it could costs them truckloads of money in bandwidth, but they get no revenue for it.

However, there is a solution. I would recommend you check into a free image hosting service, rather than a free web site hosting service. I did a Google search:
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...+image+hosting
and there are several good ones out there who specialize in this sort of thing and allow linking from outside sites. Then you don't have to figure out how to circumvent security. This is your best option.

abc123 · 05-13-2003, 01:21 PM

well those hosts just check for the referrer right? to use images

so you need to make your clients HTTP_REFERRER the page that the images are on

say "http://abc.org"

perhaps the solution would be to create an iframe that redirects to this location after the page loads, but have it hidden, then any future contacts with abc.org (image requests) may pass

but even if that did work i imagine you may get the popups' that come with it, but there might be a way around it

not sure

oh well.

Epsilon · 05-13-2003, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by abc123
well those hosts just check for the referrer right? to use images

so you need to make your clients HTTP_REFERRER the page that the images are on

say "http://abc.org"

perhaps the solution would be to create an iframe that redirects to this location after the page loads, but have it hidden, then any future contacts with abc.org (image requests) may pass

but even if that did work i imagine you may get the popups' that come with it, but there might be a way around it

not sure

oh well.

A legit possibility if it was allowed, but I don't know of any decent BBS software that allows you to insert an IFRAME in your comments. That would be a massive security oversight. Not in the sense that it relates to the stealing of bandwidth from freehosts, but allowing IFRAME tags in your BBS can introduce a multitude of problems from hackers, crackers, and script kiddies. Not a good idea, and I've never seen any BBS software in wide use that allows it.

abc123 · 05-13-2003, 02:48 PM

oh, i didn't read that it was for a forum.

on a totally unrelated matter i've always liked this trick

www.codenewbie.com

it may set the referrer to be the lower address

maybe, idon't have time to test it.

Admin · 05-13-2003, 02:56 PM

dude, just sign up for a cheap hosting account.

borrow your moms (haha) credit card.

Admin · 05-13-2003, 02:59 PM

i like doing that to people who steal my images.

Phaedrus · 05-14-2003, 08:24 PM

Mummy has no credit card either.

But any way thnx to both of you.

I'll check that out epsilon.